I had someone drop me one of the above for repair ,
https://youtu.be/XqIUkr7JuDM
exact same fault as this guy ,
I found the complete replacement module at a place in the UK for 335 pounds ,
that translates into almost 400 Euros , then add the extra shipping cost too Ireland , then another 25% in import duty/customs charges because of Brexit ,
its not going to cost less than 500 euros in parts to put it right , before Ive even added a charge for the work .
The owner of the unit in the video managed to find the replacement PCB board from Bosch for 200 pounds , fitted it and it overheats within 5 minutes ,
He also manged to damage the DSP board ,so that cost him an extra 80 pounds on top .
A brand new ZLX 12P G2 from Thomann is 633 euros , then the customer has two different models of speaker. what can I concievably charge for fitting a new module, maybe 50 euros max , then if it goes wrong again Im in the frame for the replacement parts personally .
so its as simple as this , I have to let the customer know repair just isnt viable or economical ,
There is no service documentation available , EV go fuck yourselves... Assholes .
EV ELX12 P
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So many items like this unfortunately. Never a good feeling to be partway down that voyage of discovery.
Best,
Doug Williams
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Doug Williams
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Cheers Doug ,
Ive had many of my finest moments as live sound eng. with EV gear ,
The Eliminator series is at least 30 something years old by now , but with decent amps, speaker management and a half way decent analog mixer it still beats the pants off many of these modern class D powered and digital mixer setups .
Shit nowadays is designed down to a price point , long term reliabillity and servicabilliy isnt a factor anymore ,
I spoke to the owner and reccomended he keeps the old unit for spare parts and spends the extra cash(500 + for repair VS 630 euros new ) on a ELX12P G2, Im simply not willing to take the risk of a fail for the nominal charge I can make for swapping out a module, which takes around 5 minutes of my time to install and test ,
The service tech has been phased out by chip shooting robots away off somewhere in the PRC ,
Ive had many of my finest moments as live sound eng. with EV gear ,
The Eliminator series is at least 30 something years old by now , but with decent amps, speaker management and a half way decent analog mixer it still beats the pants off many of these modern class D powered and digital mixer setups .
Shit nowadays is designed down to a price point , long term reliabillity and servicabilliy isnt a factor anymore ,
I spoke to the owner and reccomended he keeps the old unit for spare parts and spends the extra cash(500 + for repair VS 630 euros new ) on a ELX12P G2, Im simply not willing to take the risk of a fail for the nominal charge I can make for swapping out a module, which takes around 5 minutes of my time to install and test ,
The service tech has been phased out by chip shooting robots away off somewhere in the PRC ,
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Re: EV ELX12 P
Never been a big fan of powered speakers due to internal amp serviceability.
If I were still doing service work I would turn this one down too.
Speaking of which I just threw out my old Platt tool bag.
I probably put 50,000 miles on that thing.
The leather has dried out and its very worn.
I don't miss the travel at all.
If I were still doing service work I would turn this one down too.
Speaking of which I just threw out my old Platt tool bag.
I probably put 50,000 miles on that thing.
The leather has dried out and its very worn.
I don't miss the travel at all.
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In the end I swapped out the preamp pcb from the broken speaker , replacing the one in the other working speaker which had a damaged xlr input .
The customer had already moved over to a pair of Mackies , so planned on moving on the EV's anyway.
I wrote out a description of the damaged unit so he can sell it for spares or repair .
I asked for 30 euros for the swap ,but the guy put a 50 in my hand and said buy yourself a few pints .
In the last couple of months two other local audio electronic repair guys packed it in and closed their opperation down , leaving a huge gap in the market , but so much modern gear isnt worth the time, effort and cost repairing anymore .
I always liked visiting new places ,but in more recent years I grew to very much hate airports so I tend to stay much closer to home .
Even trips to the capitol city ,Dublin , 165 miles away, is something I avoid like the plague , its as rough as the badgers proverbials .
The customer had already moved over to a pair of Mackies , so planned on moving on the EV's anyway.
I wrote out a description of the damaged unit so he can sell it for spares or repair .
I asked for 30 euros for the swap ,but the guy put a 50 in my hand and said buy yourself a few pints .
In the last couple of months two other local audio electronic repair guys packed it in and closed their opperation down , leaving a huge gap in the market , but so much modern gear isnt worth the time, effort and cost repairing anymore .
I always liked visiting new places ,but in more recent years I grew to very much hate airports so I tend to stay much closer to home .
Even trips to the capitol city ,Dublin , 165 miles away, is something I avoid like the plague , its as rough as the badgers proverbials .