More green energy "winning" in California.
https://www.energy-storage.news/moss-la ... -capacity/
Now it's 0GWh.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/16/ ... -closures/
I don't believe even halon is effective for lithium battery fire suppression. Whatever system was in place didn't work. Now imagine if such a facility was permitted in an urban or suburban area, maybe as a "green" backup system for a data center or a hospital.
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I recall one of the County officials saying this was the fourth fire there since the batteries were installed.AnalogPackrat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:57 pm More green energy "winning" in California.
https://www.energy-storage.news/moss-la ... -capacity/
Now it's 0GWh.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/16/ ... -closures/
I don't believe even halon is effective for lithium battery fire suppression. Whatever system was in place didn't work. Now imagine if such a facility was permitted in an urban or suburban area, maybe as a "green" backup system for a data center or a hospital.
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Map Shows Rising Home Insurance Costs by State as Climate Risks Reshape the Market
From Realtor.com: https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/map ... ts-rising/
An interactive version of this map is contained in the article.

From Realtor.com: https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/map ... ts-rising/
"Extreme weather events." In southern California and Maui it's administrative arson by government. In other parts of the country it's geoengineering to create economic collapse and destabilization.Extreme weather events—like California’s devastating wildfires and a rare snowstorm in the South—are reshaping the U.S. insurance and real estate markets, burdening homeowners with rising costs.
Last week, states in the Gulf Coast experienced an unprecedented snowstorm, with several areas in Florida potentially surpassing the state’s all-time snowfall record of 4 inches, set in 1954. It’s also estimated that the Southern states could face losses of $15 billion to $17 billion due to the storm, according to AccuWeather.
Meanwhile, California is battling unprecedented wildfires. The Palisades and Eaton fires, which scorched a path of destruction in Pacific Palisades, Malibu, and Altadena, continue to burn. Together, they’ve destroyed over 55,000 acres and 16,000 structures as of Friday, with insured losses estimated at $45 billion, according to Cal Fire. Thousands of emergency crews were also fighting more recent blazes, including in San Diego and Ventura County.
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That's BS. So my insurance on my cabin in upstate PA will skyrocket because of a hundred year flood event last year but not where my primary home is in south central PA where I'm a stones throw from a flood plain. The median income up there is on the low end of middle class so might as well screw them over some more. Many didn't have coverage for flooding and cant afford it if they wanted.
https://www.stargazette.com/story/news/ ... 766654007/
I can say my neighbors down the road from me at lower elevation just had their property moved into a flood zone and their rates went up as a result. They said screw it and sold and moved away.
They are manipulating the system unchecked.
https://www.stargazette.com/story/news/ ... 766654007/
I can say my neighbors down the road from me at lower elevation just had their property moved into a flood zone and their rates went up as a result. They said screw it and sold and moved away.
They are manipulating the system unchecked.
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cleanup on aisle 6......thought provoking conclusion to this pieceAnalogPackrat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:57 pm More green energy "winning" in California.
https://www.energy-storage.news/moss-la ... -capacity/
Now it's 0GWh.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2025/01/16/ ... -closures/
I don't believe even halon is effective for lithium battery fire suppression. Whatever system was in place didn't work. Now imagine if such a facility was permitted in an urban or suburban area, maybe as a "green" backup system for a data center or a hospital.
"Energy storage is a key tool in transforming our grid and meeting our climate goals, and the industry is moving quickly. Safety measures need to keep up."
What a major battery fire means for the future of energy storage
https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/0 ... wtab-en-us
Why we don’t need to worry too much about the latest grid battery fire
https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/en ... ly-designs
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In mid January we caught the tail end of a huge storm here in Ireland , 750.000 electricity customers spent anything upto 3-4 weeks without power .
People both in private homes and state provided council housing with air to water heatpumps/underfloor heating simply had to pack up and leave because there was no backup heat source available . In the rush for green and clean , houses were built without chimneys or flues , gas cylynders couldnt be found for love nor money and people were forced to leave brand new 'so called' state of the art dwellings .
The other thing was people were forced to undertake dangerous journeys on roads strewn with debris to charge the phones so kids with addictions to social media and internet didnt go stir crazy and start self destructing .
Many didnt realise with the addition of a simple 12v to 5v adapter their vehicle battery could have easily provided a means to charge personal communications devices without the need to put their lives in danger.
This and the story about the Callfornia battery fire shows the people at the very top of this energy pyramid scheme didnt factor in possible down sides ,
leaving the people who invested facing the cost of further updates to make the system fit for purpose .
The other innescapable fact is the averaged personal usage in terms of C02 in California is some 400 times what a person in Bangladesh uses over the course of their lifetime , so the 50% reduction target ,which were struggling to achieve still leaves us with a huge disparity between rich and poor places .
The other inconveinient truth is the hidden cost of getting the resources to make the 'Green' fantasy come true is war in far away places , out of sight ,out of mind .
People both in private homes and state provided council housing with air to water heatpumps/underfloor heating simply had to pack up and leave because there was no backup heat source available . In the rush for green and clean , houses were built without chimneys or flues , gas cylynders couldnt be found for love nor money and people were forced to leave brand new 'so called' state of the art dwellings .
The other thing was people were forced to undertake dangerous journeys on roads strewn with debris to charge the phones so kids with addictions to social media and internet didnt go stir crazy and start self destructing .
Many didnt realise with the addition of a simple 12v to 5v adapter their vehicle battery could have easily provided a means to charge personal communications devices without the need to put their lives in danger.
This and the story about the Callfornia battery fire shows the people at the very top of this energy pyramid scheme didnt factor in possible down sides ,
leaving the people who invested facing the cost of further updates to make the system fit for purpose .
The other innescapable fact is the averaged personal usage in terms of C02 in California is some 400 times what a person in Bangladesh uses over the course of their lifetime , so the 50% reduction target ,which were struggling to achieve still leaves us with a huge disparity between rich and poor places .
The other inconveinient truth is the hidden cost of getting the resources to make the 'Green' fantasy come true is war in far away places , out of sight ,out of mind .